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i think if they go for susan rice, who i think you disagree, krystal, is a disgray as lindsey graham said, she's incompetent or untrust kwoworthy and will b investigated on benghazi. that is investigated. we had intelligence 24 hours after the attacks in realtime, and she went out and gave misinformation or lies. that will be investigated. if they go with that and run towards controversy, that is a signal batten down the hatches. we're in for a fight. if they go with with john kerry or the other pick, national security adviser tom donlon, i think it's clear they're sort of let's get through this peacefully, smoothly and move on. >> i'm not sure that's what i would read or a lot of people would read from picking susan rice. they don't want to let the republicans decide who we pick for secretary of state. i want john kerry to stay in the senate. i don't want scott brown to run for senate next year. he's a he powerful person to run against because he's just been senator. i want to see mitt romney in the white house. i want to see mitt romney as secretary of commerce or this new secretar
i think if they go for susan rice, who i think you disagree, krystal, is a disgray as lindsey graham said, she's incompetent or untrust kwoworthy and will b investigated on benghazi. that is investigated. we had intelligence 24 hours after the attacks in realtime, and she went out and gave misinformation or lies. that will be investigated. if they go with that and run towards controversy, that is a signal batten down the hatches. we're in for a fight. if they go with with john kerry or the...
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richardson. >> thank you, alex. >> let's focus first on the mccain, graham, ayotte piece which seems to be political the fact they're calling for watergate style investigations and at the same time, john mccain isn't attending the high-level security briefings relating to the incident. >> well, first, the congress does have a legitimate role in oversight on benghazi, on nominations but, however, this seems to be getting political though senator mccain is an honorable man. i've known him for many year, but so is ambassador rice. i've known her. she's for thorough professiona. the u.n. ambassador is a cabinet member. but the u.n. ambassador's role is in new york dealing with security counsel, sanctions on iran, sanctions on north korea. you're not in the daily ma maelstrom in washington, d.c. the information that the intelligence community provided her at the time, but that intelligence changes. so i think the president is right, to back his people. secondly, to say that ambassador rice was deceptive is wrong. she is reading from pieces of paper that you get every morning from either a
richardson. >> thank you, alex. >> let's focus first on the mccain, graham, ayotte piece which seems to be political the fact they're calling for watergate style investigations and at the same time, john mccain isn't attending the high-level security briefings relating to the incident. >> well, first, the congress does have a legitimate role in oversight on benghazi, on nominations but, however, this seems to be getting political though senator mccain is an honorable man. i've...
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and denise thinks senator grahams and mack cane are still smarting over the 2008 loss. we'll have all the details next. stay with us. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment on any new volkswagen. visit vwdealer.com today. >>> it's like earning capital. you asked do i feel free. let me put it to you this way. i earned capital in the campaign, political capital, and now i intend to spend it. >> the good ol' day, president bush flaunting his political capital in 2004. since last tuesday, republicans have been making the presidential candidate and frequent rewriter of american industry, congressman paul ryan of wisconsin, rejected the notion that his party's ideas lost by making the claim the election was too close. but
and denise thinks senator grahams and mack cane are still smarting over the 2008 loss. we'll have all the details next. stay with us. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0...
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. >> what else did senator graham say? still licking their wounds from an election night trouncing. >> if you had said to me three weeks ago, mitt romney would get fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he's 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> dumbfounded. is all this a sign that republicans are now ready to meet in the middle on issues like immigration and taxes? will they move faster on immigration? you can join our conversation on twitter. you can find me at @tamronhall and my team at @newsnation. having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and my daughter loves the santa. oh, ah sir. that is a customer. let's not tell mom. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. fedex office. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] don't just reject convention. drown it out. introducing the all-new 2013 lexus ls f sport. an entirely new pursuit. [ male announcer ] why do more emergency workers everywhere trust duracell...?? duralock power preserve. locks in power f
. >> what else did senator graham say? still licking their wounds from an election night trouncing. >> if you had said to me three weeks ago, mitt romney would get fewer votes than john mccain, and it looks like he's 2 million fewer, i would have been dumbfounded. >> dumbfounded. is all this a sign that republicans are now ready to meet in the middle on issues like immigration and taxes? will they move faster on immigration? you can join our conversation on twitter. you can...
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it is not just john mccain and lindsey graham. there are others raising questions about the potential for susan rice to be elevated to secretary of state. they have serious questions they say while the president says that susan rice was giving information given to her by the intelligence community, the questions these republicans are asking include why did the station chief in benghazi report in realtime, they say, it was a terrorist attack right away? there is a definite disagreement about the facts and question of republicans why susan rice was put in this question. they say as u.n. ambassador, why was she the spokesperson on the issue of benghazi in the first place and appeared on the morning shows as you discussed. senators point out it's their constitutional role to advise and consent on the nominations and push back when they see fit. they said what about condaleeza rice? wasn't that disqualifying and those was -- that was a different time and other countries agreed with the u.s. at that time that there was a danger of weapo
it is not just john mccain and lindsey graham. there are others raising questions about the potential for susan rice to be elevated to secretary of state. they have serious questions they say while the president says that susan rice was giving information given to her by the intelligence community, the questions these republicans are asking include why did the station chief in benghazi report in realtime, they say, it was a terrorist attack right away? there is a definite disagreement about the...
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there will be a bunch of republicans led by john mccain and joe lieberman and lindsey graham who are going to argue for longer troop deployments. waiting to see what the conditions are on the ground. having more troops there than the administration wants and a big segment of the republican caucus that will not support that. and that, again, is the divide inside the republican caucus. ultimately the president is going to have to balance the risk of withdrawing troops faster against the goal of leaving afghanistan as stable and secure as possible. and whatever his decision is going to be, that's going to be his legacy. so that's going to be his responsibility. >> is there anybody else who's stepping up on the john mccain side of this? i mean, at this point john mccain is a noun and verb and don't cut and run. he's really -- i feel like his credibility on foreign policy issues is getting pretty wispy at this point. is there anybody else who's taken the place of him as he becomes less and less relevant? >> mark kirk, kelly ayotte, marco rubio. prepared to carry this water on the republic
there will be a bunch of republicans led by john mccain and joe lieberman and lindsey graham who are going to argue for longer troop deployments. waiting to see what the conditions are on the ground. having more troops there than the administration wants and a big segment of the republican caucus that will not support that. and that, again, is the divide inside the republican caucus. ultimately the president is going to have to balance the risk of withdrawing troops faster against the goal of...
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and lindsey graham needs to give it up too. and they need to suck it up and start to work across the aisle like they have in the past, and show some basic respect for the president of the united states. >> i mean, this is the first shot over the bow, as to how the next congress is going to feel about one another. i mean, do you think mccain and graham would have the troops to stop her if she does, and the president says today he hasn't made that determination yet, whether he's going to nominate her or not. do you think they have the chops to do that? >> sure. in the senate, it only takes a couple of people to filibuster. and then there aren't the 60 votes. and if they go through with this, if they don't back down, it will be hard for her to get confirmed. that's the reality of the u.s. senate. so it seems to me and i think a lot of other people that the president and senator mccain need to get together, you know, not have a beer summit, maybe drink something harder, and, you know, try to work this out and establish some kind of
and lindsey graham needs to give it up too. and they need to suck it up and start to work across the aisle like they have in the past, and show some basic respect for the president of the united states. >> i mean, this is the first shot over the bow, as to how the next congress is going to feel about one another. i mean, do you think mccain and graham would have the troops to stop her if she does, and the president says today he hasn't made that determination yet, whether he's going to...
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. >> just listening to john mccain, that's senator lindsey graham taking to the microphone there but listening to senator mccain who has been very vocal about trying to find out and get answers to what happened in benghazi on september 11th. a loss of four american lives there. critical of ambassador susan rice as we've heard senator john mccain talk about her, colonel jack jacobs is still with me. he's calling for a select committee. it most likely will not happen. >> it's my guess too. >> but making a lot of noise to make it happen. now we have this coming on the heels of the fact that david petraeus will testify to the senate intelligence committee, however, behind closed doors. >> yeah, i don't think he's necessarily going -- petraeus going to necessarily have very much to add to what we already know. there's little doubt in my mind and the mind of most military people the attack on the compound in benghazi was preplanned, small arms and automatic represent, rocket-propelled grenades and mortars no a concerted effort. that's preplanned and in most cases rehearsed. for the white h
. >> just listening to john mccain, that's senator lindsey graham taking to the microphone there but listening to senator mccain who has been very vocal about trying to find out and get answers to what happened in benghazi on september 11th. a loss of four american lives there. critical of ambassador susan rice as we've heard senator john mccain talk about her, colonel jack jacobs is still with me. he's calling for a select committee. it most likely will not happen. >> it's my guess...
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at 11:51 this morning when lindsay graham told that lie about ambassador susan rice, little lindsay graham, and i speak not of his physical stature, i speak of the size of this tiny man's character, little lindsay graham became the senate's new joe mccarthy. the word liar belongs before his name now instead of senator until lindsay graham retracts that lie, until he says i was wrong to call ambassador right, quote, an essential player in the benghazi debacle. that lie cannot stand. the media cannot allow it to stand, but we know better. we can be assured that the media will, for the most part, actually allow it to stand. liar lindsey graham will continue to be invited on tv shows where that statement will not be called a lie. it may be challenged, but it will not be called a lie. liar lindsay graham, of course, has an open invitation to come on this program and retract his lie or try to get away with it again and see how that works out for him here. liar lindsey graham and john mccain are the same who had no problem for another named rice, after she failed miserably as george bush's nation
at 11:51 this morning when lindsay graham told that lie about ambassador susan rice, little lindsay graham, and i speak not of his physical stature, i speak of the size of this tiny man's character, little lindsay graham became the senate's new joe mccarthy. the word liar belongs before his name now instead of senator until lindsay graham retracts that lie, until he says i was wrong to call ambassador right, quote, an essential player in the benghazi debacle. that lie cannot stand. the media...
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but already she has a no vote from lindsey graham. the senator echoing concerns about her role in the handling of the benghazi attack. >> i don't, quite frankly, trust her rendition of benghazi. so i think susan rice would have an incredibly difficult time getting through the senate. i would not vote for her unless there's a tremendous opening up of information explaining herself in a way she has not yet done. his delicious could only come from nature. now from the maker of splenda sweeteners, discover nectresse. the only 100% natural, no-calorie sweetener made from the goodness of fruit. the rich, sweet taste of sugar. nothing artificial. ♪ it's all that sweet ever needs to be. new nectresse. sweetness naturally. >>> even before the shock of the resignation of cia director david petraeus has worn off, the question about the widely add mired general is this -- what's next? here's his former spokesperson on "today." >> i don't think we've heard the last of david petraeus. he's come back from quite a bit of adversity in the past, para
but already she has a no vote from lindsey graham. the senator echoing concerns about her role in the handling of the benghazi attack. >> i don't, quite frankly, trust her rendition of benghazi. so i think susan rice would have an incredibly difficult time getting through the senate. i would not vote for her unless there's a tremendous opening up of information explaining herself in a way she has not yet done. his delicious could only come from nature. now from the maker of splenda...
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. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi, and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received and besmirch her reputation is outrageous. >> i knee people don't come to spontaneous demonstrations with rockets and mortars for the president of the united states for two weeks afterwards to deny that was the case, is either a coverup or it is incompetence. >> ahead this hour, one of the republicans calling for a wider probe, new hampshire senator kelly ayotte. and what's going on with the generals? leon panetta orders ethics review. the fbi agent, he's the guy who brought down the millennium bomber. >>> taking out the military leader of hamas and fire from the gaza strip. >> israel will continue to take whatever action is necessary to defend our people. >> we'll talk to michael oren, israel's ambassador to the united states. >>> and president obama at this hour in staten islan
. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi, and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received and besmirch her reputation is outrageous. >> i knee people don't come to spontaneous demonstrations with rockets and mortars for the president of the united states for two...
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>> senator john mccain and senator lindsey graham said today they want watergate-style hearings on the attack on the consulate in benghazi. >> i want to ask about the families of four killed. >> general petraeus is where we begin at the white house. i guess it's a good bet they would be coming up today. >> reporter: yeah. you saw the ap ask it. it didn't dominate as much as we thought. our friends at telemundo asked a question and coming back on immigration. he talked about the fiscal cliff. he laid down the law you saw him there. he wants the tax cuts extended for everybody under $250,000 and got to general petraeus and this whole intertwined story with benghazi, that's when it got really rough. the president took out after republicans namely john mccain and lindsey graham for the criticism leveled at susan rice. the u.n. secretary, shortly after the attacks that resulted in the death of four americans, she went on "meet the press" and other sunday shows and said what happened in benghazi was the result of a spontaneous protest that morphed in to something else and resulted in the dea
>> senator john mccain and senator lindsey graham said today they want watergate-style hearings on the attack on the consulate in benghazi. >> i want to ask about the families of four killed. >> general petraeus is where we begin at the white house. i guess it's a good bet they would be coming up today. >> reporter: yeah. you saw the ap ask it. it didn't dominate as much as we thought. our friends at telemundo asked a question and coming back on immigration. he talked...
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john mccain and lindsey graham know this is much ado about nothing. are there legitimate questions to ask, bureaucratic questions about how information moves up the chain of command? of course. there always are in these sorts of situations. especially when they're tragic like this. but does that mean it's some sort of scandal, you know, watergate style cover-up or there was an effort to have people, quote, stand down in the fashion of terrorism? it's ridiculous. >> it's worth mentioning the president at the press conference made it clear that four americans did lose their lives and he's deeply concerned about that. and we all should be. but republicans e especially senators mccain and graham, have been beating up on u.n. ambassador susan rice every single day for the last two months. and the president stood up to that bullying today. take a listen. >> to bring those who carried it out to justice. they won't get any debate from me on that. but when they go after the u.n. ambassador, apparently because they think she's an easy target, then they've got a
john mccain and lindsey graham know this is much ado about nothing. are there legitimate questions to ask, bureaucratic questions about how information moves up the chain of command? of course. there always are in these sorts of situations. especially when they're tragic like this. but does that mean it's some sort of scandal, you know, watergate style cover-up or there was an effort to have people, quote, stand down in the fashion of terrorism? it's ridiculous. >> it's worth mentioning...
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mccain and lindsey graham said he will not support the nomination of ambassador rice if she's nominate. >> we will do what we can do block the nomination. >> i don't trust her. i thought she should know better. if she didn't snow better, she shouldn't be the voice of america. >> their chief complaint is they disqualified herself several days after the benghazi on a slew of shows, including "meet the press." >> our current assessment is what happened in benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction of what had transpired hours before in cairo. almost a copycat of the demonstrations at our facility in cairo. >> at his news conference, a visibly angry obama fired back. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi, and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received, and to besmirch her representation is outrageous. >> well, mccain didn't want to have the president to have the last word. and he raced to the senate fl
mccain and lindsey graham said he will not support the nomination of ambassador rice if she's nominate. >> we will do what we can do block the nomination. >> i don't trust her. i thought she should know better. if she didn't snow better, she shouldn't be the voice of america. >> their chief complaint is they disqualified herself several days after the benghazi on a slew of shows, including "meet the press." >> our current assessment is what happened in benghazi...
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lindsey graham took to twitter writing, "mr. president, don't think for one minute i don't hold you ultimately responsible for benghazi." and senator mccain took his rebuttal to the floor of the senate. >> we believe whoever it is must be held responsible, i say to the president of the united states, most importantly, the president of the united states who is commander in chief. who so far, in my view, has not exercised those responsibilities and also not informed the american people of the facts. >> s.e., senator mccain went on to say yesterday there was either gross incompetence here or, in fact, a white house cover-up. >> yeah. >> what do you think -- and we've asked senator mccain this directly -- what do you think he and others suspect in the matter? >> well, a couple things. i think it's a little bizarre. the indignation over questioning susan rice is a little bizarre given that she was made by the president's own admission the spokesperson on that day for what happened in benghazi. she was sent out to the sunday shows, fi
lindsey graham took to twitter writing, "mr. president, don't think for one minute i don't hold you ultimately responsible for benghazi." and senator mccain took his rebuttal to the floor of the senate. >> we believe whoever it is must be held responsible, i say to the president of the united states, most importantly, the president of the united states who is commander in chief. who so far, in my view, has not exercised those responsibilities and also not informed the american...
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senators john mccain and lindsey graham want to work on reform. john boehner wants to find common ground. and even sean hannity is trying to shift to the middle. >> we have to get rid of the immigration issue all together. it's simple. you control the border first. you create a pathway for those that are here. you don't say you have to go home. and that's a position i have evolved on. because you know what, it's got to be resolved. the majority of people here, some have criminal records, you can send them home. but if they are law-abiding, kids are born here, first secure the border, pathway to citizenship, done. whatever little penalties you want to put in there. then it's done. >> pathway to citizenship, done. where was all this talk before the election? you see this is all about getting votes. it's not coming from the heart. reforming immigration policy is a huge risk for the republicans. they could alienate their base. there's no guarantee they will win the latino vote in the long run. let's turn to ruy teixeira. great to have you with us. >>
senators john mccain and lindsey graham want to work on reform. john boehner wants to find common ground. and even sean hannity is trying to shift to the middle. >> we have to get rid of the immigration issue all together. it's simple. you control the border first. you create a pathway for those that are here. you don't say you have to go home. and that's a position i have evolved on. because you know what, it's got to be resolved. the majority of people here, some have criminal records,...
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senator graham and senator mccain are acting just childishly despicable. they know susan rice had intel. she said this is the intel we had at the time. this is what we know. they of all people know that condi rice who hay that had no problem supporting after she mistakenly or erroneously spread information about weapons of mass destruction herself pointed out that when things are unfolding, that's what an investigation is. it's what you know right now may not be what you know in a couple of weeks. it shows there's not a genuine attempt to work with the president. >> senator mccain was on the "today show" this morning. matt lauer asked him specifically about the two race situations. take ha look. >> you said opponents of condoleezza rice were expressing sour grapes after an election loss. why is this different? >> because every intelligence agency in the world, including the british, believe that iraq had weapons of mass destruction, that it was an entirely different situation. four americans died that didn't have to die. >> is there a blurring of the line
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his good friend graham was there to carry his water time and time again. but part of what makes this so shameful is both of these men know better. they actually also should remember that it took a year for the community to come back and say, they know that what they are doing is wrong. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. thank you. >> coming up, on the day. the very day, that the president of the united states came to new york city to see more of the damage done by hurricane sandy, today, the stars of fox and friends who actually work in new york city showed they have no idea how bad hurricane sandy really was here. fox and friends are in tonight's rewrite. avoid bad. don't go over 2000... 1200 calories a day. carbs are bad. carbs are good. the story keeps changing. so i'm not listening... to anyone but myself. i know better nutrition when i see it: great grains. great grains cereal starts whole and stays whole. see the seam? more processed flakes look nothing like natural grains. you can't argue with nutrition you can see. great grains. search great
his good friend graham was there to carry his water time and time again. but part of what makes this so shameful is both of these men know better. they actually also should remember that it took a year for the community to come back and say, they know that what they are doing is wrong. >> thank you both for joining me tonight. thank you. >> coming up, on the day. the very day, that the president of the united states came to new york city to see more of the damage done by hurricane...
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, son of billy graham. mr. graham tells a right wing website that the president's re-election puts the nation on, and i'm quoting him, a path of destruction and suggested that only, quote, complete economic collapse can put the nation back on the path to godliness. i thought, sir, that godliness was about taking care of the poor and the marginalized. mr. graham seems to be suggesting that the president's concern for these individuals, those individuals represented by people like yourself, that this is a path to destruction. >> well, i think that what mr. graham's message is certainly something that we could say that we were on the way to economic collapse, and this president brought us back. so not only is he theologically unsound, he's historically inaccurate. the fact of the matter is if he was paying attention, we almost went to our knees, and now we're working our way back 32 months of job creation. we're seeing the whole economy starting a recovery, so i think mr. graham is off base both historically,
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he was able to schedule more television time on the "today" show this morning where he adopted the graham rule in explaining condoleesa rice's failures. mccain voting for her confirm ration. >> back in 2005 when you supported the nomination of condoleezo rice. she made the comment that the weapons of mass destruction might have been a mushroom cloud. you said the opponents were expressing sour grapes after an election loss. why is this different. >> because every intelligence agency in the world believed that iraq had weapons of mass destruction. that was a different situation. >> he is lie iying about the scheduling confusion thing. i worked in the senate. all the senators are talking about it. they are talking to each other about it beforehand. they are talking to each other about it. mccain shirked what he otherwise would claim to be his duty to be in that brief. >> scheduling error is political speak. not likely the case or he just doesn't want to have to get ip to it. he clearly has something in his crawl when it comes to this line of argument. when confronted with the reality that a
he was able to schedule more television time on the "today" show this morning where he adopted the graham rule in explaining condoleesa rice's failures. mccain voting for her confirm ration. >> back in 2005 when you supported the nomination of condoleezo rice. she made the comment that the weapons of mass destruction might have been a mushroom cloud. you said the opponents were expressing sour grapes after an election loss. why is this different. >> because every...
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. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence she had received and besmir much her reputation is outrageous. >> earlier, senators mccain and graham slammed rice vowing to stop her rumored nomination as secretary of state. >> i don't trust her. and the reason i don't trust her is because i think she knew better and if she didn't know better, she shouldn't be the voice of america. >> we'll do whatever is necessary to block the nomination. >> all right. so back to petraeus. "the wall street journal" reports he was already at odds with his boss national intelligence directsor james clapper after petraeus wanted the cia to fight back publicly against criticism for its role in benghazi. and we also have new details this morning on the personal scandals that have enveloped petraeus and john allen from nbc's andrea mitchell who broke this story. >> reporter: at his news conference, the president
. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence she had received and besmir much her reputation is outrageous. >> earlier, senators mccain and graham slammed rice vowing to stop her rumored nomination as secretary of state. >> i don't trust her. and the reason i don't trust her is...
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. >> others including senator lindsey graham it's likely petraeus will be called on at some point. >> i hate what happened to general petraeus for his family and the families involved, but we have four americans dead in benghazi, a failure in the making. i don't see how in the world you can find out what happened in benghazi before, during and after the attack if general petraeus doesn't testify. so from my point of view, it's absolutely essential that he give testimony before the congress so we can figure out benghazi. >> nbc news has reached out to general petraeus and paula broadwell, and so far there's been no response. jill kelley and her husband, scott, released a statement to "the new york times" yesterday, asking for privacy for their family. >> andrea mitchell, what happened here? the fbi's investigating this. a woman sends some -- first of all, tell us the nature of these e-mails that would prompt an fbi investigation. >> well, here's the situation. the woman, whom we have confirmed was jill kelley who was a married woman in tampa who did some social and wounded warrior work
. >> others including senator lindsey graham it's likely petraeus will be called on at some point. >> i hate what happened to general petraeus for his family and the families involved, but we have four americans dead in benghazi, a failure in the making. i don't see how in the world you can find out what happened in benghazi before, during and after the attack if general petraeus doesn't testify. so from my point of view, it's absolutely essential that he give testimony before the...
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chuck schumer and lindsey graham are revisiting a plan they proposed together back in 2010. >> i think we have a darn good chance, using this blueprint, to get something done this year. the republican party has learned that being anti-illegal -- anti-immigrant doesn't work for them politically. and they know it. >> it's one thing to shoot yourself in the foot. just don't reload the gun. so, i intend not to reload this gun when it comes to hispanics. i intend to tear this wall down and pass an immigration reform bill that's an american solution to an american problem. we have nobody to blame but ourselves when it comes to losing hispanics. and we can get them back with an effort on our part. >> two years ago, president obama called schumer and graham's proposal a promising framework. >>> the greek parliament has approved an austerity budget for the next year. let's take a look at the early markets. cnbc's julia chatterly is live in london. greece had to do this, despite mass protest in the street. >> absolutely. one difference we saw was there was no reported violence, which is somethin
chuck schumer and lindsey graham are revisiting a plan they proposed together back in 2010. >> i think we have a darn good chance, using this blueprint, to get something done this year. the republican party has learned that being anti-illegal -- anti-immigrant doesn't work for them politically. and they know it. >> it's one thing to shoot yourself in the foot. just don't reload the gun. so, i intend not to reload this gun when it comes to hispanics. i intend to tear this wall down...
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and graham is willing to do it on immigration. he's going to say that this morning. we need other people to do the same. >> we will leave it there as this debate continues. senators, thank you both very much. >> you're welcome. >>> coming up here, you heard where both sides stand. we're going to have some reaction to these two senators and analysis on where the negotiations go from here. >>> also, the economic stakes. if lawmakers can't get a deal, what does it mean to all of us? we will check in with the host of cnbc's "mad money," that's jim cramer. >>> also, we'll talk more broadly about the politics post-election and more on the petraeus 1k57b8d that's unfolding around this roundtable. joaquin castro from texas, doris kearns goodwin, historian, of course. more from bob woodward and our own chuck todd as we continue here on "meet the press." >>> coming up, the dow closed friday down 300 points for the week, finishing one of the worst weeks in the stock market, due, in part, about the concerns over the fiscal cliff. we will check in, in addition to the group, jim c
and graham is willing to do it on immigration. he's going to say that this morning. we need other people to do the same. >> we will leave it there as this debate continues. senators, thank you both very much. >> you're welcome. >>> coming up here, you heard where both sides stand. we're going to have some reaction to these two senators and analysis on where the negotiations go from here. >>> also, the economic stakes. if lawmakers can't get a deal, what does it...
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graham and i are talking to our colleagues about this right now and i think we have a darn good chance using this blueprint to get something done this year. the republican party has learned that being anti-illegal and anti-immigrant doesn't work for them politically and they know t. >> senator coburn, what is the lesson for your party from this election? >> you have to be -- you have to demonstrate what you're for, not what you're against. i think that's the key ingredient and sell a vision positive for america, not a negative vision about what's wrong with america. i think you have to have both but we didn't sell a positive vision. we didn't explain to people what we're for. i think that's the one thing we took away from the election, and that's what's lacking. >> do you see, senator schumer, a role for governor romney in this process, like to see the president bring him in to the negotiations over the fiscal cliff? >> you know about that but i would like to see him speak up. i think you could see him struggling in the general election, the hard right had moved him so far over on issu
graham and i are talking to our colleagues about this right now and i think we have a darn good chance using this blueprint to get something done this year. the republican party has learned that being anti-illegal and anti-immigrant doesn't work for them politically and they know t. >> senator coburn, what is the lesson for your party from this election? >> you have to be -- you have to demonstrate what you're for, not what you're against. i think that's the key ingredient and sell...
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you saw senator graham working on a proposal. the dream act was close to begin with. but when you look back to george bush, he was trying to get immigration reform done in his last two years, but it was the first time of the pushback from talk radio. now you have hispanics 10% of the electorate. you have, as was pointed out this weekend, 75% of them voted for president obama. so the republicans have a little outreach to do. and i'd suggest one way instead of just giving speeches is work with us on immigration reform. >> from your advantage point as a democrat who has been cross aisle oriented, what happens within the republican party between those republican senators and who they see as constituents on an issue like that? he's secretary of state in kansas. he's there. and that's an active and vocal faction in the republican party. how do they lose the debate if they need to lose the debate for republicans to survive? >> the business community can play a major role. we have major businesses that want to see immigration reform. they look at their employee base. they loo
you saw senator graham working on a proposal. the dream act was close to begin with. but when you look back to george bush, he was trying to get immigration reform done in his last two years, but it was the first time of the pushback from talk radio. now you have hispanics 10% of the electorate. you have, as was pointed out this weekend, 75% of them voted for president obama. so the republicans have a little outreach to do. and i'd suggest one way instead of just giving speeches is work with us...
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i support what senator mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte are doing. i think that probably is the right direction. >> thank you so much. thanks for being with us. >> thank you. >> we're only minutes away from the president's news conference. stay with us for live coverage next on "andrea mitchell reports." >> time for the your business entrepreneurs of the week. kathleen and susan are encouraging customers to shop local. they created the monthly ladies night in the magnolia park area of burbank, california, to boost sales by staying open late. make sure to support your local retailers on november 24th for the third annual small business saturday. for more watch your business this sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. sometimes what we suffer from is bigger than we think ... like the flu. with aches, fever and chills- the flu's a really big deal. so why treat it like it's a little cold? there's something that works differently than over-the-counter remedies. prescription tamiflu attacks the flu virus at its source. so don't wait. call your doctor right away.
i support what senator mccain, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte are doing. i think that probably is the right direction. >> thank you so much. thanks for being with us. >> thank you. >> we're only minutes away from the president's news conference. stay with us for live coverage next on "andrea mitchell reports." >> time for the your business entrepreneurs of the week. kathleen and susan are encouraging customers to shop local. they created the monthly ladies night...
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lindsey graham and rogers and feinstein. we're going to cover all this benghazi and petraeus stuff. >> david gregory, thanks very much. >>> still ahead, actor bradley cooper takes us inside his latest role and donny, you say it's a good one. >> honestly, one of the best movies i have ever seen. if you're 80, if you're 20, and he is spectacular. >> wow! okay. >> the dust bowl filmmaker ken burns will be here to talk about his new film documenting what he calls the worst manmade ecological disaster in u.s. history. "morning joe" back in a moment. with the spark cash card from capital one, sven gets great rewards for his small business! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! woo-hoo!!! so that's ten security gators, right? put them on my spark card! why settle for less? testing hot tar... great businesses deserve great rewards! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles
lindsey graham and rogers and feinstein. we're going to cover all this benghazi and petraeus stuff. >> david gregory, thanks very much. >>> still ahead, actor bradley cooper takes us inside his latest role and donny, you say it's a good one. >> honestly, one of the best movies i have ever seen. if you're 80, if you're 20, and he is spectacular. >> wow! okay. >> the dust bowl filmmaker ken burns will be here to talk about his new film documenting what he calls...
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and to a lesser extent the same could be said by senator graham. for them to see that we have been attacked by enemies of the united states, our embassy and therefore the united states is being attacked, and sunsinstead joining in and seeing who the enemy was to find them and to bring them to justice, they have seen fit to jointly want to destroy the political career of an ambassador that was merely repeating the intelligence that was given to her. this is not what is expected of our heroes. clearly when a family, america, is under attack, you don't really take sides of the attacker and start charging malfeasance to the commander in chief. >> but, mr. rangel, mr. mccain, senator mccain says he wants more information, so he does a press conference. he goes to the floor of the senate. he appears on the "today" show. but he doesn't attend the briefing where he might have got some answers to his questions. >> well, i have to admit that a lot of us are addicted to the television screens rather than to the facts in this case, but i would hope that the se
and to a lesser extent the same could be said by senator graham. for them to see that we have been attacked by enemies of the united states, our embassy and therefore the united states is being attacked, and sunsinstead joining in and seeing who the enemy was to find them and to bring them to justice, they have seen fit to jointly want to destroy the political career of an ambassador that was merely repeating the intelligence that was given to her. this is not what is expected of our heroes....
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from lindsay graham and kelly iot. are those just the three that feel this way? are they outlieers. >> i think there's a big demand to find out what happened in benghazi and to do so through a select committee. there's going to be no sharing of intelligence between the various committees who look into benghazi. so the idea is a select committee can take this on, share information and really get to the bottom of it. what republicans are saying is the obama administration has put out very conflicting stories about what happened in benghazi, when they knew about it, what they did about it and how they sort of perpetuated the idea this was a spontaneous attack. so the republicans on capitol hill are saying we only need to get through the double talk. get to the bottom of what happened. we lost an american am bas dpor. three other americans. president obama said i did everything i could as soon as we found out this is happening. then how come the whole place was left completely undefended? there's so many big ands of questions. that's what senator mccain was getting a
from lindsay graham and kelly iot. are those just the three that feel this way? are they outlieers. >> i think there's a big demand to find out what happened in benghazi and to do so through a select committee. there's going to be no sharing of intelligence between the various committees who look into benghazi. so the idea is a select committee can take this on, share information and really get to the bottom of it. what republicans are saying is the obama administration has put out very...
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. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received? and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous. >> that's the slow burn for the president i'd say. this morning mccain had some strong words for his former opponent, the president. let's listen to mccain. >> i know people don't come to spontaneous demonstrations with rockets and mortars, and for the president of the united states for two weeks afterwards to deny that that was the case is either a cover-up or it is incompetence. >> one of mccain's main allies, lindsay graham of south carolina, also responded to the president. he said, quote, mr. president, don't think for one minute i'm going to hold you ultimately responsible for benghazi. i think you failed as commander in chief before, during, and after the attack. what's behind all this anger? jonathan alter is a columnist for bloomberg view and ron reagan is an msnbc p
. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence that she had received? and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous. >> that's the slow burn for the president i'd say. this morning mccain had some strong words for his former opponent, the president. let's listen to mccain. >> i know...
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mccain and graham, they're out there pushing the case that she misled the american people, she should not be secretary of state or even considered for nomination because she misled on purpose. is there any evidence that she did? >> absolutely not. absolutely not. and, in fact, if ambassador rice departed from what the intelligence community told her and told us was their best assessment, then she's open to legitimate criticism. but she didn't. she took what the intelligence community said, this is our best sense of what happened. >> okay. >> how can you fault her for doing that. >> i think she's clean. my problem is with petraeus. from the day he saw the news reports and what she said on the sunday shows, including "meet the press" from our network, from the day how he saw how she categorized it as beginning as a protest and being hijacked by the bad gives with rpgs and heavily harmed from the minute he heard her say that and learned it was not the case, why didn't he correct the record. >> at the time he heard her say that, that is what he thought took place. he did begin -- >> whaen
mccain and graham, they're out there pushing the case that she misled the american people, she should not be secretary of state or even considered for nomination because she misled on purpose. is there any evidence that she did? >> absolutely not. absolutely not. and, in fact, if ambassador rice departed from what the intelligence community told her and told us was their best assessment, then she's open to legitimate criticism. but she didn't. she took what the intelligence community...
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i'm not sure the specter of lindsey graham and john mccain, who i think said that he felt like susan rice wasn't very bright. >> yes, that was the language he used. >> i don't know i don't feel that's a good position for either people to be in in the republican party. >> raul, we have to have you back on. you're always a great guest. mark thank you for stepping out with us. coming up, live to capitol hill where a senate intelligence hearing on benghazi is set to start. it's one of a couple happening today. none include general david petraeus, but we have new word the general will make an appearance in the next 24 hours. ♪ i am the ghost of cookies past. residue. so gross. well you didn't use new pam, so it looks like you're "stuck" with me. [ female announcer ] bargain brand cooking spray leaves annoying residue. that's why there's new pam. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to make changes. but it never hurts to see if you can find better coverage, save money, or both. and check out the prevent
i'm not sure the specter of lindsey graham and john mccain, who i think said that he felt like susan rice wasn't very bright. >> yes, that was the language he used. >> i don't know i don't feel that's a good position for either people to be in in the republican party. >> raul, we have to have you back on. you're always a great guest. mark thank you for stepping out with us. coming up, live to capitol hill where a senate intelligence hearing on benghazi is set to start. it's...
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if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. i'm happy to have that discussion with them. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence she had received and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous. i don't think there is any debate in this country when you have four americans killed, that's a problem. we've got to get to the bottom of it. there needs to be accountability. we've got to bring those who carried it out to justice. they won't get any debate from me on that. when they go after the u.n. ambassador, apparently because they think she's an easy target then they've got a problem with me. >> the president is right. these republican accusations are outrageous. the truth is this. ambassador rice went on the sunday shows after the tragedy, said the attacks began as protests and they were hijacked by extremists. she said this because that's what the cia believed. that's what the cia told her with an intelligence briefing given to her
if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. i'm happy to have that discussion with them. but for them to go after the u.n. ambassador who had nothing to do with benghazi and was simply making a presentation based on intelligence she had received and to besmirch her reputation is outrageous. i don't think there is any debate in this country when you have four americans killed, that's a problem. we've got to get to the bottom of it. there...
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and former penn state president graham spanier was arrested on charges of trying to hush up sex abuse allegations against jerry sandusky. he has been released on bail. now we're going to take you back to "hardball." >>> welcome back to "hardball." maybe the only people more depressed than republicans today are comedians nail miss out on the comedic potential of a romney administration and also lost old friends last night, todd akin last night, joe walsh, allen west. bill maher warned us about the risk last week. let's take a look. >> that's it. that's the election. it is your choice, america, because for me it's a win-win. if it's obama, america wins. if it's romney, comedy wins. >> well, last night america won, comedy lost, you might say. bill maher the host of "real time" an amazing television show. with bill maher on hbo. bill, karl rove has offered some material. is he the baghdad bob of the 2012 election, the last guy to admit something's new and something bad is happening? >> it was a little hitler's bunker, wasn't it? i wanted to rush in with a cyanide capsule there. i thought
and former penn state president graham spanier was arrested on charges of trying to hush up sex abuse allegations against jerry sandusky. he has been released on bail. now we're going to take you back to "hardball." >>> welcome back to "hardball." maybe the only people more depressed than republicans today are comedians nail miss out on the comedic potential of a romney administration and also lost old friends last night, todd akin last night, joe walsh, allen west....
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senator lindsey graham made an important statement -- >> we have four dead americans in benghazi. we have a national secure failure along in the making. i don't see how in the world you can find out what happened in benghazi before, during and after the attack if general petraeus doesn't testify. so from my point of view, it's absolutely essential that he give testimony before the congress so we can figure out benghazi. >> his second is going to step in to give that testimony now. but could he be compelled to testify? >> he would then be testifying about potentially classified information. but i think congress could certainly call him. you presume the agency second would also have been briefed on what was happening and could give adequate testimony as well. i think republicans for a lot of reasons still want petraeus there because he's the person they wanted to talk to. i think one of the things to remember is there is a slight distinction. the fbi initially was not investigating general petraeus but the potential hacking of his e-mails because the e-mails coming from his alleged
senator lindsey graham made an important statement -- >> we have four dead americans in benghazi. we have a national secure failure along in the making. i don't see how in the world you can find out what happened in benghazi before, during and after the attack if general petraeus doesn't testify. so from my point of view, it's absolutely essential that he give testimony before the congress so we can figure out benghazi. >> his second is going to step in to give that testimony now....